Yes However, shooting deer with 410 slugs is illegal in some jurisdictions across the US A 410 shotgun can kill a deer with the right shot placement and if fired closer than 35 yards 4570 is definitely more accurate and retains energy better down range, Thereby being giving it the edge under gerneral circumstances However, within close range such as the 70yds orginally mentioned or less, you will hardpressed to say the 4570 has greater lethality assuming you compare identical shot placements The 410 slug looses nearly half of its initial kinetic energy only 5080 yards down range depending on the particular slug you are using A 158gr 357 magnum bullet will still have half of its initial kinetic energy past 150yards or further The 410 sluggun is definitely a short range weapon due to its limitation on accuracy and down range energy
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The 410 bore is one of the smallest caliber of shotgun shell commonly available (along with the 9mm Flobert rimfire cartridge, and the less common 22 rimfire shot shell) A 410 bore shotgun loaded with shot shells is well suited for small game hunting and pest controlThe 410 started off in the UK as a garden gun along with the 360 and the Nos 3, 2 and 1 bore rimfires 410 shells What are your thoughts on the 410 slug for deer hunting? The introduction of 410/45 revolvers has created an incentive for ammunition makers to start taking the 410 seriously again For many years people wanting to press a 410 into self defense service would be forced to use slugs, which while basically 45 caliber were so light that they didn't achieve the kind of terminal performance of 45
4570 Government (405 grain at 1330 fps) Marlin (350 grain at 2100 fps) 8458 Winchester Magnum (500 grain at 90 fps) Lott (500 grain at 2300 fps) 2285 Note A more comprehensive rifle cartridge killing power list with more calibers and loads can be found on the Member Side Tables, Charts and Lists index page5 months ago , by Dealer 410 SLUG Shotgun Ammo 100 rounds $ $124 ppr $ PRODUCT DESCRIPTION Ammunition 410 Bore Shell Length 2 1/2" Velocity 1510 FPS Shot Size Slug / 26 oz Rounds 100/Box Pre order Ammo will be schedule to arrive week of March 4th 21 (We only sell what we can supply!) 1 Apparantly it can be done but the 410 rim diameter (0524) is smaller than a 4570 (0608) so you may have extraction issues There is some discussion of it here 410 in a 4570 I always thought the thing to do would be to just load up birdshot in a 4570 case as if you were loading an all brass case Felt base wad, birdshot, cover wad, glue
Continuing on with our outsidethebox expansion program, we're taking our lever actions in another new direction for Henry Repeating Arms with the 17 introduction of two 410 bore shotguns for those who like their smallgauge shotgunning to be done through a quickhandling platform they're familiar with in rimfire and centerfire versions already used in the field Depending on how tight your chamber is, 45 Colt, and 454 Casull, might just might catch the lip and chamber If you fire one, though, you are sending a 452 bullet down a 458 barrel Accuracy should suck I've heard that 410 will work in 45/70 rifles Never tried it I haven't done much in the past with 410bore slug loads This is because much of my 410 shooting has focused on dualcaliber 45 Colt/410 handguns which produce lousy
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Gauge is sold everywhere;Well, r The Emporium is taking on the experiment Well, the shotshell fits in the chamber of this single shot 45/70 rifle It will also fire, but with donutshaped patterns due to the rifled barrel The 410 would be my first choice because it could do small game as well Problem is the local range doesnt allow shot, slugs only The long distance in the cylinder kind of affects accuracy from what I read So I got the crazy idea of learning to reload 45 bullets into 444 brass to get that lead closer to the barrel
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The 410 can fire a rifled slug around 125 yards but it will have dropped about 12 inches and have lost around 70% of its energy What else can you shoot out of a 45 70? Based on no experience whatever, I would think that 4570 would be better A long, heavy hard lead or jacketed bullet would penetrate better than a fat, stubby slug, and there's a lot of meat and bone to get through to hit the vital organs of a big bear One point in favor of the slugs, though, would be that semiautomatic shotguns are much4570 H & R Rifle Shooting 410 Shotgun ShellsWarning this can be dangerous use your own judgement!Recently my friend Pete read an article online stating
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i'd been thinking 3030 or 4570 then the tamer came along that is when i noticed gauge foster slugs are $1 apiece, while 4570 is about $2 apiece, and 3030, $170 apiece (i am a longtime handloader, but i'd just as soon use storebought ammo for the time being) 4570 is kind of hard to come by; While a 410 shell carries a lesser load than a 12 or gauge, it still packs similar velocity in the pellets Can a 410 Shotgun Kill a Deer?Live Chat New Products Measuring Tools Tactical Gear
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Visit our international partner sites The slugs we'll set aside for now, as they work similarly to very large pistol projectiles Shot, the common term for a collection of round projectiles fired from a shotgun, is packed into a shotshell atop a wad Larger shotshells like 12 gauge can shoot larger payloads of shot than smaller shotshells, like the 410 bore Next day we went fishing and the old timer stayed behind Couple hours later we heard a shot and knew the bear returned Old timer shot him in the head The slug exited and there wasn't much left of the bears head Slugs work well The harder the slug the better But I've also seen 4570's and 444 Marlin work just as well
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Combine the normal 4570 fodder with some small game loads and 410 (25") shells and you've got a great short range scrounging rig Strange, that describes my backup Elk rig There was a great article in Handloaders Digest 10th edition about the "444 Formula for Survival" The data in it directly translates to the 4570 and is worth a look It offers 7 or 8 rounds of slugs as fast as I can pull the trigger I also have a couple 16s in 4570 They are a touch slower to cycle, but have more range and better pinpoint accuracy * I tend to carry the 12 gauge while packing meat back to the plane, if I am done hunting Or out berry picking 410 slug is measured at full length shotgun FPS, you will get no where near 1850 fps and its a slightly smaller projectile and will not get good accuracy I would buy a box of both, shoot something see what hits harder and which is more accurate, my guess is 45lc will be better
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The Rifles Slug was cut open and the slug was exactly 40 inches in diameter and weighed 96 grains It had a white powder as a filler behind the slug This was surprisingly light to me Some have mistakenly said, "Getting hit by a 410 slug is like getting shot with a 41 caliber pistol"AdHighest Ranked Sporting Site on the Web Shop and Save Today!Each individual slug is more than capable of killing a Grizzly with one well placed shot So you can certainly use it for hunting them Being attacked by one is different because he now has adrenaline coursing through his vains If you miss, he wi
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A 410 shotgun will shoot and kill game birds at anywhere between 25 and 40 yards At the 40 yards range, a good shot is going to have to be fired as the shot pattern is less dense The 410 can fire a rifled slug around 125 yards but it will have dropped about 12 The 308 autoloader is much easier to get (swift, up close) repeat hits with, vs the 4570 lever action The 308 has less recoil in the first place, the gasop auto action "soaks up" some of the felt recoil, and the lever action takes a lot longer to cycle and a lot more practice to get fast hits The 4570 ammo is COMICALLY overpriced The results when fired from a Savage Arms Model 42 from 50 yds, the alllead, 41cal slug penetrated to a depth of about 8½" The
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Personally, if it is close range and you have a precise shot it certainly can be done I would prefer the 3″ magnum Brenneke shotgun slugs for maximum impact if your weapon is chambered for them That being said I will stick with my favorite game hammer cartridge, the 45/70 AlwaysI think energy wise 12 ga, 454 casul, 460sw, and 4570 are close ish off the top of my head Looks like these are 135gr at probably ~1800fps edit roughly half the energy of a trapdoor 4570 load ~700 ftlbs vs ftlbs Where did you get the slugs and load data? Here's a look at the eight best chargestopping bear cartridges ever made 1 4570 Government First adopted by the US military in 1873, the 4570 Government has been one of the longeststanding biggame cartridges of all time It's also been incredibly popular among Alaskan hunters and guides, especially in leveractions like Marlin
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I own a Ruger PC4 40 carbine and a 410 shotgun The 40 would be head and shoulders above the 410 slug for use on deer As stated above, the 410 slug only weighs about 80 grains vs 180 for the 40 The bullet diameters are similarWhats the grain/weight of the slug and the FPS/energy were talking about with the 410 slug??Not too long ago there was a bear killed by someone that was in the guys shed He shot it with one shot with a 410 shotgun and dropped it on the spot But at the same time don't under estimate the power of the shotguns using the slugs too
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The 4570 is a good choice I have a mossberg 695 bolt action that is a great slug gun, and I've shot out to 150 But the 4570 would be my go to option I will say this, for allot of Ohio's special draw hunts, the shotgun is still the only thing allowed So if you have any plans of applying for those draws you may want to go with the shotgun The slug breaks up and also has less range than the rimfire rifle he said In this niche, there is nothing quite as capable as the 410, he asserted Our experiments confirmed his assessment of the 410 slug Another interesting development is the introduction of the Taurus Judge in 45 Colt and 410 bore No way will the 4570 fit in the chamber due to the larger diameter head If you want a longer case to work with, take a 444 Marlin case and fire form it in your 45/410 handi When the 444 Marlin case is blown straight out it has a 452 slug capability when is the 4570 when blown straight is a 475cal
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In truth nothing could be further from the truth It's VERY under powered compared with larger gauges and isn't any more accurate Also for people keeping their Taurus Judges loaded with 410 slugs, they would be MUCH better served with a A 4570 with a good load can retain terminal effectiveness (put down an animal) well past 500 yards (target shooters please don't throw rocks the round can provide target accuracy and terminal effectiveness past 1000 yards, but with its high trajectory and specialised sight needs that does not make it a practical hunter out that far for most people and most guns ),To quote from his email, "The 12 gauge with slugs is ideal for crawling through the puckerbush after a big bear, but it's not the best tool for a 150yard shot at a fleeing bear heading for the thick stuff" He also mentioned in the same email that his favorite guide rifle is a 4570
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Shooting the 3" American Derringer chambered for 45LC(45 Long Colt/ 45 Colt) and the 410 Bore Shotshell This motivated and scientific video pits the 4 Depending on the 45/70 load, it has somewhat more velocity than most shotgun slugs Hydrostatic effect is higher with higher velocity so the internal damage will be higher with the 45/70 On a deer sized critter, the shotgun slug and the 45/70 bullet are both much more than needed for a swift kill so as AGL says, dead is dead The 4570, although not too terribly popular today, was a frequent choice of the US Armed Forces when it first hit the market While it is a bit too big and cumbersome and has too steep a trajectory to be reliable at long distances, at short range, the
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Someone said a handgun rather than a slug dude, modern sabot slugs in rifled tubes are essentially 45/70's with jacketed bullets, albiet very short, Hollow Pointed ones with low SD These don't always exit deer either and are oft apt to tumble BRI made a hardened hourglass sabot for LE for breaking concrete UP CLOSE4570 is an ideal cartridge for hunting deer, black bear, feral hogs, moose, brown bear, and other big game in thick woods or heavy cover where short range shots (>100 yardsFind instock 410 Bore ammunition at the best pricesFAST Search Showing Now Seeking 410 Bore Ammo shotgun slug Cost Range $1195 $4998 Saved Searches Login /
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